A turning point in the debate occurred when Harris deftly jabbed at Trump regarding the size of his rally crowds.
Harris had a clear strategy: disrupt Trump’s rhythm. The approach proved highly effective. When she brought up Trump’s criminal conviction and ongoing legal troubles, he reacted strongly. Her critique of his role in derailing a bipartisan immigration bill elicited an even more intense response. But it was her comment about Trump’s rallies being uninteresting that really threw him off.
Instead of addressing the moderators' questions, including those Trump might have viewed as his strong suits, the former president diverted the conversation. He expounded at length about the supposed entertainment value of his rallies, accused the Biden administration of targeting him legally, and made bizarre claims—among them, that migrants were eating Americans' pets.
“They’re eating the dogs, the cats, the pets of the people who live there,” Trump claimed after Harris criticized his handling of the immigration bill.
Harris listened with a puzzled expression but chose not to engage with the strange assertions, letting Trump continue his off-topic rants.
Trump seemed particularly incensed by Harris’ remark about his rallies. Despite attempts by the moderator to steer the discussion back to immigration, one of Trump’s favored topics, he remained fixated on the rally issue.
“First, let me respond about the rallies,” Trump said, mocking the size of Harris' crowds before extolling his own. “People don’t leave my rallies; we have the biggest, most incredible rallies in political history.”
The debate’s first hour concluded much as it had begun—with Trump veering off into a lengthy, narrow-focused discussion about the 2020 election, which he falsely claimed had been stolen from him.
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